What do you love about Berlin?
Lisa: I come from Fulda originally, and I also lived for a while in Munich and overseas. Then my three best girlfriends moved to Berlin and that was a deciding factor for me. I came here in 2006 – and that first year – the first summer with the Soccer World Cup – that was just amazing. Many spectacular years in Berlin have followed since that one.

Patrick: I came to Berlin with my parents when I was six years old. I then studied in Wismar, so coming to Berlin was coming back home. I love to travel, but only to come back again. And coming home always means Berlin to me. 

What did you want to do when you grew up – and what changed? 
Lisa: A novelist, simply because I was a huge Astrid Lindgren fan. And a gymnast. But I quickly realised that you have to choose that career very early on – and exclusively. That would have meant putting everything else aside. Even then, I didn’t think that was a great solution.

Patrick: I would have loved to have been a bass guitarist. And a soccer pro. When I was 13, I honestly thought that players my age could just get discovered in the regional league. Then a talent scout comes along and says to you: “Hey, that was a great pass, I’m going to take you to the national league!” It never happened, though. 

Which educational experience really made an impression on you?
Patrick: What unites us all was the course at the HPI School of Design Thinking in Potsdam. We all met each other there and came up with the idea to found what we now call “The Dark Horse”. That was certainly life-changing. And then I remember a course lecturer with whom I prepared for the qualifying examination in architecture. He was a painter and really very supportive. We drew with coal and lay all our pictures out on the floor. He found something good in every picture. Honestly, everything couldn’t possibly have been that good, but he discovered small hidden qualities that could have easily been presented in clearer detail. But because he went around to us all with our pictures and did that, you really wanted to go home and draw still life for another six hours the next day.

Lisa: In my advanced German course I had a teacher that didn’t make it easy for us. She preferred to teach at university level and had already received a few reprimands for her work. In her class, we were reading Effi Briest and were told to continue writing the book in free form, and to relate what happened to the character Baron von Innstetten after his death. We then made a film in which we portrayed the Last Judgement as a bubble bath and angels debated Baron von Innstetten’s moral duty and his path into heaven or hell. I really had fun, and it also showed me how to look at literature in a unique way.