What did you want to be when you grow up, and what changed?
Erkan: I always wanted to be a pilot, that was my biggest dream. So I learnt to tell the difference between the types of planes from the ground by looking at them from underneath. And I read a lot of comics about pilots and flying. It was still a really prestigious profession back then. Then I came to Germany and somehow I always had the feeling I wouldn’t be good enough at school to be a pilot. So at some point I just gave up.
Mudar: I wanted to be an inventor, though I could never quite say what I wanted to invent. All the same, I wanted to create something that came from me. And actually, I do that now with architectural designs.